RE: [cisco-ttl] qos problemi ( son hali )

From: gokhans_at_koc.net
Date: Mon Nov 03 2003 - 05:47:07 GMT

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    Selam,
     
    Fragmentation yapmalisin.Büyük data paketleri geldiğinde ses paketleri yüksek gecikmeye ugruyordur.
     
    Oncelikle uygulaman gereken sey FRTS ve Fragmentation.LLQ değilde PQ kullanabilirsin sadece mesela.
     
    PQ,16384 ile 32767 arasındaki çift udp portları önceliklendiriyor yani sadece RTP paketleri.LLQ'da ise RTCP paketleride önceliklendirilir.
     
    Aşağıdaki class'ı ilgili DLCI'in altına uygulayıp,ana interfacede "frame-relay traffic-shaping" girip dene istersen.
     
    map-class frame-relay voipovfr128
     frame-relay cir 128000
     frame-relay bc 1280
     frame-relay be 0
     frame-relay mincir 128000
     no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
     frame-relay fragment 160
     frame-relay ip rtp priority 16384 16383 48
     
     
    Gökhan Sürücü
    #12161
     

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Ali KAPTAN [mailto:ali.kaptan_at_asay.com.tr]
            Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 4:49 PM
            To: cisco-ttl_at_yahoogroups.com
            Subject: RE: [cisco-ttl] qos problemi ( son hali )
            
            
            bu konfigürasyonda hangi taraftan büyük dosya gönderirilirse otarafın sesi karşı ulaşmıyor. dosya transferini kestiginizde herşey normale dönüyor. paketler iki tarfatada match oluyor. yardımlarınız için teşekkürler.
             
             
            merkez router
             
            class-map voip
              match access-group 101
            !
            !
            policy-map qos
              class voip
               bandwidth percent 50
              class class-default
               fair-queue
            !
            ip subnet-zero
            !
            !
            !
            !
            voice-port 1/0
             cptone TR
            !
            voice-port 1/1
             cptone TR
            !
            voice-port 2/0
             cptone TR
            !
            voice-port 2/1
             cptone TR
            !
            !
            dial-peer voice 1 pots
             destination-pattern 35
             port 1/0
            !
            dial-peer voice 2 pots
             destination-pattern 35
             port 1/1
            !
            dial-peer voice 3 pots
             destination-pattern 35
             port 2/0
            !
            dial-peer voice 4 pots
             destination-pattern 35
             port 2/1
            !
            dial-peer voice 5 voip
             destination-pattern 06
             dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.6
            !
            dial-peer voice 6 voip
             destination-pattern 06
             dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.6
            !
            dial-peer voice 7 voip
             destination-pattern 36
             dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.2
            !
            dial-peer voice 8 voip
             destination-pattern 36
             dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.2
            !
            dial-peer voice 11 voip
             destination-pattern 34
             dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.10
            !
            dial-peer voice 12 voip
             destination-pattern 34
             dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.10
            !
            !
            interface Serial0
             no ip address
             encapsulation frame-relay
             no ip route-cache
             no ip mroute-cache
             load-interval 30
             service-policy output qos
             frame-relay lmi-type ansi
            !
            interface Serial0.16 point-to-point
             bandwidth 128
             ip address 192.168.254.1 255.255.255.252
             no ip route-cache
             no ip mroute-cache
             service-policy output qos
             frame-relay interface-dlci 101
              class voipovfr128
             frame-relay ip rtp header-compression
            !
            interface Serial0.17 point-to-point
             bandwidth 64
             ip address 192.168.254.5 255.255.255.252
             no ip route-cache
             no ip mroute-cache
             service-policy output qos
             frame-relay interface-dlci 102
              class voipovfr64
             frame-relay ip rtp header-compression
            !
            interface Serial0.18 point-to-point
             bandwidth 64
             ip address 192.168.254.9 255.255.255.252
             no ip route-cache
             no ip mroute-cache
             service-policy output qos
             frame-relay interface-dlci 103
              class voipovfr64
             frame-relay ip rtp header-compression
            !
            interface FastEthernet0
             ip address 10.9.4.200 255.255.255.0
             no keepalive
             speed auto
            !
            ip classless
            ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.9.4.99
            ip route 10.9.101.0 255.255.255.0 Serial0.16
            ip route 10.9.102.0 255.255.255.0 Serial0.17
            ip route 10.9.103.0 255.255.255.0 Serial0.18
            no ip http server
            !
            !
            map-class frame-relay voipovfr128
             frame-relay cir 128000
             frame-relay bc 1280
             frame-relay be 0
             frame-relay mincir 128000
             no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
             frame-relay fair-queue
             frame-relay fragment 160
             frame-relay ip rtp priority 16384 16383 48
            !
            map-class frame-relay voipovfr64
             frame-relay cir 64000
             frame-relay bc 640
             frame-relay be 0
             frame-relay mincir 64000
             no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
             frame-relay fair-queue
             frame-relay fragment 80
             frame-relay ip rtp priority 16384 16383 24
            access-list 101 permit udp any any range 16384 32768
            access-list 101 permit ip any any precedence critical
            access-list 101 permit ip any any dscp ef
            access-list 101 permit ip any any precedence flash
             
             
            ankara router;
             
            class-map voip
              match access-group 101
            !
            !
            policy-map qos
              class voip
               bandwidth percent 50
              class class-default
               fair-queue
            !
            memory-size iomem 40
            ip subnet-zero
            !
            !
            !
            !
            voice-port 1/0
             cptone TR
             description ankara_fxs_c/o_no:06
            !
            voice-port 1/1
             cptone TR
             description ankara_fxs_c/o_no:06
            !
            !
            dial-peer voice 1 pots
             destination-pattern 06
             port 1/0
            !
            dial-peer voice 2 pots
             destination-pattern 06
             port 1/1
            !
            dial-peer voice 5 voip
             destination-pattern 06
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.6
            !
            dial-peer voice 6 voip
             destination-pattern 06
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.6
            !
            dial-peer voice 7 voip
             destination-pattern 36
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.2
            !
            dial-peer voice 8 voip
             destination-pattern 36
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.2
            !
            dial-peer voice 9 voip
             destination-pattern 35
             dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.5
            !
            dial-peer voice 10 voip
             destination-pattern 35
             dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.5
            !
            dial-peer voice 11 voip
             destination-pattern 34
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.10
            !
            dial-peer voice 12 voip
             destination-pattern 34
             req-qos controlled-load
             ip precedence 5
             session target ipv4:192.168.254.10
            !
            !
            interface Serial0
             no ip address
             encapsulation frame-relay
             no ip route-cache
             no ip mroute-cache
             service-policy output qos
             frame-relay lmi-type ansi
            !
            interface Serial0.102 point-to-point
             bandwidth 64
             ip address 192.168.254.6 255.255.255.0
             no ip route-cache
             no ip mroute-cache
             service-policy output qos
             frame-relay interface-dlci 102
              class voipovfr64
             frame-relay ip rtp header-compression
            !
            interface FastEthernet0
             ip address 10.9.102.200 255.255.255.0
             no keepalive
             speed auto
            !
            ip classless
            ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial0.102
            no ip http server
            !
            !
            map-class frame-relay voipovfr64
             frame-relay cir 64000
             frame-relay bc 640
             frame-relay be 0
             frame-relay mincir 64000
             no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
             frame-relay fair-queue
             frame-relay fragment 80
             frame-relay ip rtp priority 16384 16383 24
            !
            map-class frame-relay voipovfr128
             frame-relay cir 128000
             frame-relay bc 1280
             frame-relay be 0
             frame-relay mincir 128000
             no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
             frame-relay fair-queue
             frame-relay fragment 160
             frame-relay ip rtp priority 16384 16383 48
            access-list 101 permit udp any any range 16384 32768
            access-list 101 permit ip any any precedence critical
            access-list 101 permit ip any any dscp ef
            access-list 101 permit ip any any precedence flash
            !
            line con 0
             transport input none
            line aux 0
            line vty 0 4
             password 7 105A1C1D001A
             login
            !
            end
             

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: Ali KAPTAN [mailto:ali.kaptan_at_asay.com.tr]
                    Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 11:11 AM
                    To: cisco-ttl_at_yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: RE: [cisco-ttl] qos problemi
                    
                    
                    elimdeki routerların ios versiyonu eski ve upgrade yapmak için flash ve ram istiyor. ben elimdeki ios ile map-class frame-relay içinden service policy komutunu çalıştıramıyorum. elimdeki ios ile önerebileceginiz konfigürasyon varmı?
                    aslında problem şurda ben dosya transfer etmedigimde ses düzgün çalışıyor fakat merkezden uca dosya transferine başladıgımda ses gidiyor. paketlerin match oldugunuda görüyorum.
                     
                    rizmir#sh ver
                    Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
                    IOS (tm) C1700 Software (C1700-SV3Y-M), Version 12.1(3b), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
                    Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
                    Compiled Thu 07-Feb-02 03:21 by yiyan
                    Image text-base: 0x80008088, data-base: 0x8083F2F8
                     
                    ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.0(3r)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
                     
                    rizmir uptime is 19 hours, 7 minutes
                    System returned to ROM by power-on
                    System image file is "flash:c1700-sv3y-mz.121-3b.bin"
                     
                    cisco 1750 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x801) with 29492K/3276K bytes of memory.
                    Processor board ID JAD054200VY (3523703939), with hardware revision 0000
                    M860 processor: part number 0, mask 32
                    Bridging software.
                    X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
                    1 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
                    1 Serial(sync/async) network interface(s)
                    4 Voice FXS interface(s)
                    32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
                    8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
                     
                    Configuration register is 0x2102
                     
                    rizmir#
                    rizmir#
                    rizmir#
                    rizmir#sh po
                    rizmir#sh policy-map int s0
                     Serial0 output : qos
                      Weighted Fair Queueing
                        Class voip
                          Strict Priority
                          Output Queue: Conversation 264
                            Bandwidth 500 (kbps) Packets Matched 141194
                            (pkts discards/bytes discards) 0/0
                        Class class-default
                          Flow Based Fair Queueing
                          Maximum Number of Hashed Queues 256 Max Threshold 64 (packets)
                    rizmir#

                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: gokhans_at_koc.net [mailto:gokhans_at_koc.net]
                            Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 5:44 PM
                            To: cisco-ttl_at_yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: RE: [cisco-ttl] qos problemi
                            
                            
                            Selam,
                             
                            FRTS kullanıp map-class icinden service policy'i cagırmani onerebilirim.
                             
                            IP RTP Priority ve LLQ'yu aynı anda kullanırsan PQ'nun önceliği var.Sanırım 12.2.10b'den sonra LLQ CRTP aware oldu.IOS'ın daha yeni bir IOS ise iki feature'dan birini kullanabilirsin.
                             
                            Ana interface'de traffic shaping girdikten sonra herhangi bir sub-if e class uygulamazsan default olarak 56K ya shape ediyor.Buna dikkat etmek lazım.
                             
                            Uç Noktadaki routerda map-class'ın içinde frame-relay voice bandwidth komutu gereksiz,sonucta VOFR yapmıyosun.
                             
                            Dial Peerların içindeki req-qos guaranteed-delay komutununda RSVP kullanmadıgın için bir anlamı yok.
                             
                             
                            Şöyle bir config olabilir mesela :
                             
                            policy-map qos
                              class voip
                               priority percent 50
                              class class-default
                               fair-queue
                             
                            map-class frame-relay voipovfr128
                             frame-relay cir 128000
                             frame-relay bc 1280
                             frame-relay be 0
                             frame-relay mincir 128000
                             no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
                             service-policy output qos
                             frame-relay fragment 160 (64K için 80 )
                             frame-relay ip rtp priority 16384 16383 48
                             
                            map-class frame-relay voipovfr64
                             frame-relay cir 64000
                             frame-relay bc 640
                             frame-relay be 0
                             frame-relay mincir 64000
                             no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
                             service-policy output qos
                             frame-relay fragment 80
                            frame-relay ip rtp priority 16384 16383 24
                             
                            interface Serial0
                             no ip address
                             encapsulation frame-relay
                             no ip route-cache
                             no ip mroute-cache
                             load-interval 30
                             frame-relay traffic-shaping
                             frame-relay lmi-type ansi
                            !
                            interface Serial0.16 point-to-point
                             bandwidth 128
                             ip address 192.168.254.1 255.255.255.252
                             no ip route-cache
                             no ip mroute-cache
                             frame-relay interface-dlci 101
                             class voipovfr128
                             frame-relay ip rtp header-compression
                            !
                            interface Serial0.17 point-to-point
                             bandwidth 64
                             ip address 192.168.254.5 255.255.255.252
                             no ip route-cache
                             no ip mroute-cache
                             frame-relay interface-dlci 102
                             class voipovfr64
                             frame-relay ip rtp header-compression
                            
                             
                             
                             
                             
                            Gokhan Surucu
                            CCIE#12161
                             
                             

                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: Ali KAPTAN [mailto:ali.kaptan_at_asay.com.tr]
                                    Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:56 PM
                                    To: cisco-ttl_at_yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: [cisco-ttl] qos problemi
                                    
                                    
                                        arkadaşlar selamlar bir müşterimin 3 bölgesinde qos çalıştırmaya çalışıyorum. hatlar frame-relay. routerlar üzerinde çeşitli ayarlar yaptım fakat problem şuki merkezden bölgeye dosya transfer edilmeye başladıgında voice gidiyor ama ben peketlerin match edildigini görüyorum. daha önce bununla ugraşan varmı???
                                     
                                     
                                    merkez router
                                        Current configuration:
                                    !
                                    version 12.1
                                    service timestamps debug uptime
                                    service timestamps log uptime
                                    service password-encryption
                                    !
                                    hostname rizmir
                                    !
                                    
                                    !
                                    
                                    !
                                    class-map voip
                                      match access-group 101
                                    !
                                    !
                                    policy-map qos
                                      class voip
                                        priority 500
                                      class class-default
                                       fair-queue
                                    !
                                    ip subnet-zero
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    voice-port 1/0
                                     cptone TR
                                    !
                                    voice-port 1/1
                                     cptone TR
                                    !
                                    voice-port 2/0
                                     cptone TR
                                    !
                                    voice-port 2/1
                                     cptone TR
                                    !
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 1 pots
                                     destination-pattern 35
                                     port 1/0
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 2 pots
                                     destination-pattern 35
                                     port 1/1
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 3 pots
                                     destination-pattern 35
                                     port 2/0
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 4 pots
                                     destination-pattern 35
                                     port 2/1
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 5 voip
                                     destination-pattern 06
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     req-qos controlled-load
                                     ip precedence 5
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.6
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 6 voip
                                     destination-pattern 06
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     req-qos guaranteed-delay
                                     ip precedence 5
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.6
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 7 voip
                                     destination-pattern 36
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     req-qos controlled-load
                                     ip precedence 5
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.2
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 8 voip
                                     destination-pattern 36
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     req-qos controlled-load
                                     ip precedence 5
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.2
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 11 voip
                                     destination-pattern 34
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     req-qos guaranteed-delay
                                     ip precedence 5
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.10
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 12 voip
                                     destination-pattern 34
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     req-qos guaranteed-delay
                                     ip precedence 5
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.10
                                    !
                                    !
                                    interface Serial0
                                     no ip address
                                     encapsulation frame-relay
                                     no ip route-cache
                                     no ip mroute-cache
                                     load-interval 30
                                     service-policy output qos
                                     frame-relay lmi-type ansi
                                    !
                                    interface Serial0.16 point-to-point
                                     bandwidth 128
                                     ip address 192.168.254.1 255.255.255.252
                                     no ip route-cache
                                     no ip mroute-cache
                                     service-policy output qos
                                     frame-relay interface-dlci 101
                                     frame-relay ip rtp header-compression
                                    !
                                    interface Serial0.17 point-to-point
                                     bandwidth 64
                                     ip address 192.168.254.5 255.255.255.252
                                     no ip route-cache
                                     no ip mroute-cache
                                     service-policy output qos
                                     frame-relay interface-dlci 102
                                     frame-relay ip rtp header-compression
                                    !
                                    interface Serial0.18 point-to-point
                                     bandwidth 64
                                     ip address 192.168.254.9 255.255.255.252
                                     no ip route-cache
                                     no ip mroute-cache
                                     service-policy output qos
                                     frame-relay interface-dlci 103
                                     frame-relay ip rtp header-compression
                                    !
                                    interface FastEthernet0
                                     ip address 10.9.4.200 255.255.255.0
                                     no keepalive
                                     speed auto
                                    !
                                    ip classless
                                    ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.9.4.99
                                    ip route 10.9.101.0 255.255.255.0 Serial0.16
                                    ip route 10.9.102.0 255.255.255.0 Serial0.17
                                    ip route 10.9.103.0 255.255.255.0 Serial0.18
                                    no ip http server
                                    !
                                    !
                                    map-class frame-relay voipovfr128
                                     frame-relay cir 128000
                                     frame-relay bc 1280
                                     frame-relay be 0
                                     frame-relay mincir 128000
                                     no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
                                     frame-relay fair-queue
                                     frame-relay fragment 320
                                     frame-relay ip rtp priority 16384 16383 48
                                    !
                                    map-class frame-relay voipovfr64
                                     frame-relay cir 64000
                                     frame-relay bc 640
                                     frame-relay be 0
                                     frame-relay mincir 64000
                                     no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
                                     frame-relay fair-queue
                                     frame-relay fragment 320
                                    access-list 101 permit udp any any range 16384 32768
                                    access-list 101 permit ip any any precedence critical
                                    snmp-server engineID local 000000090200000653BE8259
                                    snmp-server community asay RO
                                    alias exec dlci sh fram pvc | inc Serial
                                    alias exec ses sh call active voice brief
                                    !
                                    line con 0
                                     transport input none
                                    line aux 0
                                    line vty 0
                                     password 7 1403070F0909
                                    line vty 1 4
                                    !
                                    end
                                     
                                    rizmir#
                                     
                                    uç noktalardan biri
                                     
                                     
                                    ip subnet-zero
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    no voice hpi capture buffer
                                    no voice hpi capture destination
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                     class-map match-all voip
                                      match access-group 101
                                    !
                                    !
                                     policy-map qos
                                      class voip
                                       priority percent 50
                                      class class-default
                                       fair-queue
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    interface FastEthernet0
                                     ip address 10.9.101.200 255.255.255.0
                                     speed auto
                                     half-duplex
                                     no keepalive
                                    !
                                    interface Serial0
                                     no ip address
                                     service-policy output qos
                                     encapsulation frame-relay
                                     no ip route-cache
                                     no ip mroute-cache
                                     frame-relay lmi-type ansi
                                    !
                                    interface Serial0.101 point-to-point
                                     bandwidth 128
                                     ip address 192.168.254.2 255.255.255.0
                                     no ip route-cache
                                     no ip mroute-cache
                                     frame-relay interface-dlci 101
                                     frame-relay ip rtp header-compression
                                    !
                                    ip classless
                                    ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial0.101
                                    no ip http server
                                    !
                                    !
                                    !
                                    map-class frame-relay voipovfr128
                                     frame-relay cir 128000
                                     frame-relay bc 1280
                                     frame-relay be 0
                                     frame-relay mincir 128000
                                     frame-relay fair-queue
                                     frame-relay voice bandwidth 64000
                                     frame-relay fragment 320
                                    access-list 101 permit udp any any range 16384 32768
                                    access-list 101 permit ip any any precedence critical
                                    !
                                    !
                                    voice-port 1/0
                                     cptone TR
                                    !
                                    voice-port 1/1
                                     cptone TR
                                    !
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 1 pots
                                     destination-pattern 36
                                     port 1/0
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 2 pots
                                     destination-pattern 36
                                     port 1/1
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 5 voip
                                     destination-pattern 35
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.5
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     req-qos guaranteed-delay
                                     ip qos dscp cs5 media
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 6 voip
                                     destination-pattern 35
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.5
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     req-qos guaranteed-delay
                                     ip qos dscp cs5 media
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 7 voip
                                     destination-pattern 06
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.6
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     ip qos dscp cs5 media
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 8 voip
                                     destination-pattern 06
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.6
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     ip qos dscp cs5 media
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 9 voip
                                     destination-pattern 34
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.10
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     ip qos dscp cs5 media
                                    !
                                    dial-peer voice 10 voip
                                     destination-pattern 34
                                     session target ipv4:192.168.254.10
                                     dtmf-relay cisco-rtp
                                     ip qos dscp cs5 media
                                    !
                                    !
                                    line con 0
                                     exec-timeout 0 0
                                    line aux 0
                                    line vty 0 4
                                     password 7 001006020156
                                     login
                                    !
                                    no scheduler allocate
                                    !
                                    end
                                     
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